But most fortunate of all are those who are not yet born. New King James Version grouped the chapter: Ecclesiastes 4:1–3 = The Uselessness of Selfish Toil Ecclesiastes 4:4–8 = The Vanity of Selfish Toil Ecclesiastes 4:9–12 = The Value of a Friend Ecclesiastes 4:13–16 = Popularity Passes Away Yet it has many times been expressed, if not felt. 4 And I saw that all toil and all achievement spring from one person’s envy of another. The tears of the oppressed, But they have no comforter— On the side of their oppressors there is power, But they have no comforter. Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. saith the prophet: [Lamentations 3:39] and it is as if he should say, Man, if alive, hath some cause of comfort amidst all his miseries; if he may escape though but "with the skin of his teeth," [Job 19:20] and have his life for a prey, he should see matter of thankfulness, and say, "It is the Lord’s mercy that I am not consumed" [Lamentations 3:22] - that I am yet on this side hell. No worldly blessing is a greater one.”— Theognis. Why is living man sorrowful? The heathen could say, Optimum non nasci: proximum mori. Ecclesiastes Chapter 2. CHAPTER 4. A Time for Everything. and Theognis.) Oh that I had given up the ghost, and no eye had seen me! (Chalcid. 3 But most fortunate of all are those who are not yet born. The advantage of society and friendship, Ecclesiastes 4:9-12. Not seen — Not felt: for as seeing good is put for enjoying it, so seeing evil is put for suffering it. If there is no life beyond this life, then the living have only the prospect of looking forward to seeing and experiencing suffering. Who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun. With increased force of expression the author here says that it is better not to have been born at all than to live. There are seasons when those who belong to the kingdom of God must weep, because the Lord hides his face from the house of Israel, ( Isaiah 8:17 ) and there are also times when they can rejoice. Ecclesiastes 3:4. 2. 3. To report dead links, typos, or html errors or suggestions about making these resources more useful use the convenient, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes Saint Jerome, Bible Foundation and On-Line Book Initiative, Ed. Again, I considered all travail— I observed again all the labour, nay, all the most successful work, that for this, &c. Which hath not yet been; who was never born. Of envy, sloth, quarrel, Ecclesiastes 4:4-6. In Ecclesiastes chap. A time to weep and a time to laugh. If a man prevails against one who is alone, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken. Yet it has many times been expressed, if not felt. Yea, better is he than both they.] Ecclesiastes 2:17 Therefore I hated life; because the work that is wrought under the sun is grievous unto me: for all is vanity and vexation of spirit. Yea, better is he than both they. The abortion that perishes unborn, as infants which never saw light. not felt; for as seeing good is put for enjoying it, Ecclesiastes 2:24, so seeing evil is put for suffering it, as hath been more than once observed. Life is certainly a blessing of God, though never so calamitous. Vanity of Toil. … the evil works of oppressors, and the sorrows of the oppressed. Though one person may be overpowered by … Psalm 55:6-11 And I said, Oh that I had wings like a dove! It has been interpreted also of the Messiah, who in Solomon's time had not yet been a man, and never known sorrow, which he was to do, and has, and so more happy than the dead or living. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. But those that have set their hearts upon earthly things, if ever they lose them, they are filled almost with unmedicineable sorrows; so as they will praise the dead above the living, and wish they had never been born. The funeral and the wedding, the hired mourners and the guests at the marriage-feast, are set against one another. Conjunctive waw | Adjective - masculine singular, Preposition-m | Number - mdc | third person masculine plural, Who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because, in order that, Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular, Verb - Nifal - Perfect - third person masculine singular, The sun, the east, a ray, a notched battlement, OT Poetry: Ecclesiastes 4:3 Yes better than them both is him (Ecclesiast. 3. The vanity of oppression, by reason of which the dead and the unborn are better than the living, Ecclesiastes 4:1-3. Retail: $39.99. Bible Gateway Recommends. Bible > Ecclesiastes > Chapter 3 > Verse 4 ... Ecclesiastes 3:4 5287 dance 5387 leisure, pastimes 5900 laughter. Ecclesiastes 4:4 Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of … Ecclesiastes 4:4 Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun. "A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up [that which is] planted;" … chapter 1 chapter 2 chapter 3 chapter 4 chapter 5 chapter 6 chapter 7 chapter 8 chapter 9 chapter 10 chapter 11 chapter 12. verse: verse 1 verse 2 verse 3 verse 4 verse 5 verse 6 verse 7 verse 8 verse 9 verse 10 verse 11 verse 12 verse 13 verse 14 verse 15 verse 16. Ecclesiastes 4:3 But better than both is he who has not yet existed, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun. “They have slept, they have been at rest.” Very wretched must he be to whom cold and dark non-existence seems better than the warm experiences of life and action. "But better off than both of them is the one who has never existed, who has never seen the evil activity that is done under the sun.". Yea, better is he than both they which hath not yet been,.... That is, an unborn person; who is preferred both to the dead that have seen oppression, and to the living that are under it; see Job 3:10. Font Size. Ecclesiastes 4:9-12. 3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun? NRSV, Thinline Bible, Large Print, Bonded Leather, Black, Comfort Print. Note, the person who hasn"t been born, has never existed. 3 ... Ecclesiastes 2 Ecclesiastes 4. Ec Ecc Eccles. For they have not seen all the evil that is done under the sun. A time to weep and a time to laugh. 24. Ecclesiastes 5. In regard to such expressions, however, we must remark that so far as they occur in Scripture they contain only one side of the truth. I saw the tears of the oppressed, with no one to comfort them. Which hath not yet been - Better never to have been born into the world, than to have seen and suffered so many miseries. From the hand of their oppressors comes violence, and there is none to comfort them! The Uselessness of Selfish Toil - Then I returned and considered all the oppression that is done under the sun: And look! 3 But better than both. (Worthington) --- The pagan sages observed, that it was "best for mortals not to be born; and if they were, to die very soon." Parallel with this is the passage (Ecclesiastes 3) where Job, who had no peace nor repose, and who was disturbed ever afresh, wishes for himself the lot of "an hidden untimely birth," and curses the day of his birth, or where in Ecclesiastes 3:20 of the same chapter he asks—"Wherefore is light given to him that is in misery, and life to the bitter in soul?" Ecclesiastes 3:3-4 a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, Read verse in New International Version is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil. 9 Two ... Read full chapter. There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens 1 Again I saw all the oppressions that take place under the sun: the tears of the victims with none to comfort * them! Ecclesiastes 4:3. And I praise the dead who have already died, more than the living who are still alive. 2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. This supposes a person to be that never was, a mere nonentity; and the judgment made is according to sense, and regards the dead purely as such, and so as free from evils and sorrows, without any respect to their future state and condition; for otherwise an unborn person is not happier than the dead that die in Christ, and live with him: and it can only be true of those that perish, of whom indeed it might be said, that it would have been better for them if they had never been born, according to those words of Christ, Matthew 26:24; and is opposed to the maxim of some philosophers, that a miserable being is better than none at all. But better off than both of them is the one who has never existed, who has never seen the evil activity that is done under the sun. Born. Update. 4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever. that is done under the sun. 1:1+12 the author calls himself son of David and king in Jerusalem. - A time to weep, and a time to laugh, grouped naturally with a time to mourn, and a time to dance. Ver. Ecclesiastes 4:3 Yea, better [is he] than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes Chapter 3 Discussion Page 4 < Back to Ecclesiastes Chapter 3 Enter New Comment . escapes all suffering. But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun. Therefore I praised the dead who were already dead, More than the living who are still alive. Ecclesiastes 3 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) Everything Has Its Time. 16 Moreover, I have seen under the sun that in the place of justice there is wickedness, and in the place of righteousness there is wickedness. Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 4903 time 5547 speech, power of. Not seen, i.e. How this is true, see on the foregoing verse. Πάντων μὲν μὴ φῦναι ἐπιχθονίοισιν ἄριστον, Φύντα δ ὅπως ὤκιστα πύλας Ἀι'´δαο περῆσαι, "Nam nos decebat, caetus celebrantes, domum. are happier than the living, who are still alive. John Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible, Matthew Poole's English Annotations on the Holy Bible, George Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible - Unabridged, Ernst Hengstenberg on John, Revelation, Ecclesiastes, Ezekiel & Psalms. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; 4. In Ecclesiastes 12:9 he mentions that he set in order many proverbs. Fred Morency on Ecclesiastes 3:15. Our Price: $25.99 Save: $14.00 (35%) Buy Now. suffer. 1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem. By thoroughly disgusting us with the world, and by making us realize its absolute vanity, God means to draw us to himself. Please enter your email address associated with your Salem All-Pass account, then click Continue. In other words, sometime in the past. Ecclesiastes 3. … Ecclesiastes 3:1-4 5880 humour. Only in this way can Jahveh, the true and absolute Being, become to us what he really is. Ecclesiastes 1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit. New International Version … Jump to Previous. The oppressors have great power, and their victims are helpless. Ver. Ver. Ecclesiastes 6:3-5 If a man beget an hundred children, and live many years, so that the days of his years be many, and his soul be not filled with good, and also that he have no burial; I say, that an untimely birth is better than he…, Job 3:10-16 Because it shut not up the doors of my mother's womb, nor hid sorrow from mine eyes…, Job 10:18,19 Wherefore then hast thou brought me forth out of the womb? 3 a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, 4 a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, 5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing, 6 a time to search and a time to give up, 3.Better’ not yet been — The dead have suffered; the living now suffer. ). But the affliction of the just procureth glory for them. The Jews, from this passage, endeavour to prove the pre-existence of human souls, and suppose that such an one is here meant, which, though created, was not yet sent into this world in a body, and so had never seen evil and sorrow; and this way some Christian writers have gone. So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done vnder the sunne; & behold the teares … a 2 And those now dead, I declared more fortunate in death than are the living to be still alive. Of covetousness and selfishness, Ecclesiastes 4:7,8. 2 So I concluded that the dead are better off than the living. “They have slept, they have been at rest.” Very wretched must he be to whom cold and dark non-existence seems better than the warm experiences of life and action. Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been. Yet all of these failed to bring a lasting satisfaction to the wisest man of all time. Dance Dancing Laugh Mourn Skip Sorrow Time Weep Weeping. 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